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      I listened to this person’s last podcast, The Santiago Boys, and it was a really fun ride through political and technological history. I’m excited to find out what this is like.

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        There’s a new empanada place that opened up here, every time I pass it I think of that podcast & Stafford Beer :D

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          I’m just waiting for him to say “dark tech” in the new podcast. He’ll find a reason to, I’m sure of it.