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    All these people clamouring for a new graphical gopher client are tempting me to make an electron monstrosity.

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      You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn’t stop to think if you should.

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        maan, they seems cool, with the small minus of actually requiring people in your vicinity to use them…

        https://beakerbrowser.com/ seems especially cool idea…

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          Beaker would be cooler if it had android/iphone versions :/

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            there’s KINDA android version, I guess… it’s called Bunsen Browser… tho it’s basic and has no editing…

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          Agreed. We need to make the web fun again, and not just an ad delivery service.

          More creators, less consumers.

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            Maybe we can all create and consume and be Consumeators.

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              meanwhile, yourtilde is busy setting up a banner exchange that’s quite literally an ad delivery service ;P

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                I see it more as a link exchange, much like a web-ring.

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              Python is talking about having something like a node_modules directory to bypass virtualenv and all the confusing stuff surrounding their dependencies. Naturally purists are already complaining, but I’ve manually installed dependencies as local files for projects before and I think this is a great idea to ensure everything stays together where it belongs without getting unnecessarily complex.

              Also, it looks like it would be compatible with git-submodules, so you could keep your git repos free of other people’s code.

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                while I cannot condone or condemn reddit, this post suggests joining their sub r/spartanweb

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                  I’ve got an old PIII w/ Ubuntu on it somewhere… I was gonna try to put a cluster of RasPi’s in there, but maybe a vintage OS is more fun?

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                    Might I suggest Risc OS?

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                    Coincidentally, I just saw this today: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/put-down-pipe

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                      Is cat overused in CLI examples, especially in stack-overflow answers? Yes. Is the raw processing power consumed by cat going to negate your productivity? No. Are the clever work-arounds people invent to avoid using cat at all really worth it? Probably not, but it looks cooler than something more readable than just using cat…

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                        So, the example I was thinking of when I wrote this goes like so…

                        Somebody on stack overflow wanted to generate passwords in bash, somebody suggested this solution:

                        cat /dev/urandom | tr -dc 'A-Za-z0-9!"#$%&'\''()*+,-./:;<=>?@[\]^_`{|}~' | head -c 13  
                        

                        another user suggested this method to avoid using cat:

                        </dev/urandom tr -dc 'A-Za-z0-9!"#$%&'\''()*+,-./:;<=>?@[\]^_`{|}~' | head -c 13  ; echo
                        

                        but I couldn’t make heads or tails of what was happening with </dev/urandom redirecting input or ; echo apparently doing something with the returned status? –

                        So the question becomes, which is more readable? to me it’s the one with the (technically) unnecessary cat.

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                      This is an awesome throwback to waaay too much of my time around college – it inspired (what eventually became) http://revengerists.com/library/ – originally the library game was hidden, and to find it you had to navigate a few domains of notpron-style puzzles before being tasked with the library

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                        I agree with the title.

                        To me, the rest seem pretty obtuse.
                        In 2018 people should be talking of self-hosting, not about paying web hosting (that are likely to resell cloud services)

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                          I think paying for web hosting is one step above letting FB control your data.

                          Of course, self-hosting is the best position to be in, but not everyone has a stable internet connection or the technical know-how to do that. Although, I would love for both of those to start moving in the right direction, baby steps first.

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                            there are literally web/ssh/vnc/ftp/etc server apps for android… hosting your own servers is easier than ever… tho stable net is one obstacle, the bigger one is ISPs not allowing incoming traffic…

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                              It sucks that ISPs have made it so difficult to have a home server - not impossible, just more difficult than it needs to be.

                              If there was an iOS/Android app made to turn a phone into a server, that’d be incredible – I’d love to have people dial into my cellphone which hosts a BBS, but alas that’s only a dream.

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                                dialing part might be a dream, but server part definitely isn’t…tho your server will probably not reach the internet cause dam ISPs deciding so…

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                            I hope someday that Microsoft will give up on trying to create a working browser, and focus on creating a working operating system.

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                              I don’t know their strategy, but given WSL, I suspect they will soon give up on trying to create a working operating system.

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                                “… a buggy set of drivers…” is my hope, but with less “buggy” :)