but try explaining that to the marketing departments…
“what do you mean we can’t track our customers’ every move?”
heh i wouldn’t call that a “win” but yes there are many better ways to do it.
I’d call a less bloated Internet a win. Did we win everything? Certainly not, but I don’t believe any of us believe there will ever be a singular motion to absolve all of our qualms with the Internet in one fell swoop.
A less bloated spying apparatus is still a spying apparatus. Just one that hides itself better.
That’s not a win in any fashion.
Unless if I’m mistaken, the article we’re replying to is against a bloated Internet in favor of a more slimmed down version where we aren’t downloading megabytes of data to read a blog.
I’m not advocating here that ads or tracking is good, but rather it’s something many sites are using and the current state of the web makes those sites bloated, which this article is wanting to encourage the reduction of. So if we could have those companies provide less bloated scripts, this would be a win for “a less bloated Internet” (and not “a no tracking / ads Internet” that it appears you and ben are considering to be the only way to win here).
Better, and more efficient spying on people isn’t a “win” in any way, shape, or form.
The current state of the Internet is you either lose money hosting a site, you have some paywall / sell content on the site, or you run ads on it to fund the site. So if you want to not charge your users but still find a way to keep the website online, you’re probably using ads (e.g. most of the Internet). What I’m saying is that the path of least resistance to making the Internet faster is to remove the bloat from ads, not to tell everyone to just bleed cash for their sites on principle by removing ads from their sites.
If your opinion is that a faster Internet is not a win in any way, shape, or form; I think we’re at an impasse.
Sadly, almost none do. And that’s the problem.
I don’t mind ads. I mind remote execution of untrusted code on my machine, that spies on me and tracks me.
I don’t want remote execution of untrusted code on my machine either that spies and/or tracks me. However, that has nothing/little to do with making the Internet less bloated, which is what I was originally discussing in terms of wins/loss.
Um, not sending 30MB of client-side executable scripts has everything to do with a bloated internet.
Now everything you wrote here, I can agree with :)
people get paid to do something “that works” as fast and as cheap as possible, not “something that works well”
This is not always the case, some companies (mine included) work to making things that work well at the cost of being a bit more premium than the cheaper alternatives and business is still running good for us.
I gave up on that.
also holy shit jira is 30mb to load a page
“if it works for us, it must be working for everyone, right?”
i’m not sure if they cache stuff properly, but it sure doesn’t load quickly!
jira is a notoriously bloated system…
“Jira is a great tool like a Finochietto retractor is a great tool. You just don’t ever want to have it used on you.”